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  Writing on a Pool of Water
« on: December 04, 2008, 07:12:19 PM » by joseph lofgren
Writing on a Pool of Water

I write about the real itself.
To take the idea; reinvent it
through fanciful tactic is
pretty, nice and pleasing.

They were in it for truth,
proclaiming the absence
in a pool of water,
an instant, dry;

'glimpses' they'd say,
glimpses, it’s true, glimpses
personal, shocking, difficult;
an instant,

never taken from physicality
as the poets of modern day did:
the mind must be
the helmsman of a cranky ship,

all the cracks, creaks,
and inherited wound,
wind all directions,
nature's fury above my head,

upon imagined ocean, I wonder
who's wind, who's current,
and why such shores?

Wobbly tables,
thirsty drinkers, these
things surround, truth itself.
There is too much crossover

from a physical body
and a wounded mind
that I feel at once these must
encompass two things—



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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 12:34:01 AM » by Tom Riordan
Joseph, I find the "glimpses" stanza and the last stanza very strong, but am glancing off of some of the other stanzas. Will watch for any revisions, am quite interested. Tom
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 04:57:57 PM » by joseph lofgren
Wow. This poem is exactly what I wanted it to be. So I guess revisions are but a vision. In a mind, not mine.

Joe
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 11:23:54 PM » by EB
this is pretty scattered; is that what you wanted? It works though, like water or a random puddle...
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 01:54:31 PM » by joseph lofgren
This poem is actually a comment on modernist's philosophy of truth--or, rather, what the poet can offer the public as far as "truth." Frost, and Eliot and several others stated throughout much of their poetry that the poet could only offer "glimpses" of truth...but nothing infinite, and nothing tangible. It could be as fleeting as the sun's reflection in a pool of water, now, dry.
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 09:38:30 PM » by Rick Stansberger
Wow. This poem is exactly what I wanted it to be. So I guess revisions are but a vision. In a mind, not mine.

Joe

But is the poem what it wants to be?  Do you feel any point where the poem fights you, seeks autonomy.  I consider those poems to be signs of life.  A poem completely passive might actually be dead.
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 10:20:21 PM » by milner place
A couple of small suggestions, Joseph. End line third stanza from the end, I wondered if you might use a more nautical term for 'uncertain' such as 'cranky'. In the very end line perhaps 'and why such shores.' This gives the readers plenty of space, and to me, sounds slightly grand and forbidding, for some strange reason.

Cheers

milner
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 12:20:34 AM » by joseph lofgren
Thank you much, both of you. It's nice to look at this poem from a different angle, after all these years. I will ponder both of your thoughts and come back with an update!
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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 08:26:10 AM » by Sue Lozynskyj
Worth watching I'll save the edit
Writing on a Pool of Water

I write about the real itself.
To take the idea; reinvent it
through some fanciful tactic
is pretty, nice and pleasing.

They were all in it for truth
anyhow, or at least, proclaiming
the absence in a pool of water
for an instant, dry;

'glimpses' they'd say.
Glimpses. It’s true. Glimpses
shocking, personal, difficult;
an instant.

Sunray's, wobbly tables
or thirsty drinkers, these
things surrounded, truth itself.
There is too much crossover

from what is a physical body
and a wandering mind that I feel
at once this must
encompass two things—

never taken from physicality
as the poet of modern day's did:
the mind must be a helmsman
of the most uncertain ship,

all the cracks and creaks,
inherited wound. Then when I
picture this: winds, all directions,
nature's fury above my head,

upon imagined ocean, I wonder
who's wind, who's current,
and why so many rocky shores.



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  Re: Writing on a Pool of Water
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 02:57:52 PM » by joseph lofgren
Thank you much, Sue.

I have edited a bit--although, I am still not sure that the poem is "what it wants to be." It may be interesting to write from this idea again and see what kinds of poems emerge.

I want to thank you all for your help with reinventing this "glimpse of truth"...so thanks!
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