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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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Reply #30 on:
September 22, 2009, 08:55:44 AM »
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Tom Riordan
Thanks, Cheryl and Stella and Gabriella.
Stella, glad you enjoyed the poem (title or no title)!
Cheryl, it may be that some of the tempest over "Christ" is not strictly poetics. If so, so be it. (He would not have minded, a lightningrod, never shied from controversy, made peeps uneasy then, makes us uneasy now, right?) All part of the discussion.
Re title, Gabriella, if you think it's a more inviting title without "Christ", that means something to me. I thought the opposite. The main factor I am considering is that the poem is in 2nd person, addressed to Christ, so "Christ's Favorite Chair" is a bit out of voice compared to "Your favorite chair -- so I'm weighing that problem against watering down the strikingness of the title.
You have probably noticed some pretty dull titles on my stuff over the months because I tend to use the title that best suits the poem rather than best gooses the audience. If I change to "Your favorite chair," it will be another instance of that, I'm afraid.
Thanks all, Tom
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 22, 2009, 09:20:50 AM »
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jamesthomashoward
Ah man, I like the title. Keep it.
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 22, 2009, 05:44:42 PM »
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ca.leverette
He would not have minded, a lightningrod, never shied from controversy, made peeps uneasy then, makes us uneasy now, right?
One thing I am sure of is the above. ^^^ And by the same token, I don't think we have the slightest idea how God/Jesus would react to certain things. We ascribe our feelings and thoughts to him. And I bet that doesn't bother him either. lol
So glad to see this poem receiving such awesome responses. Deserves it.
cheryl
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"A poem begins as a lump in the throat, a sense of wrong, a homesickness, a lovesickness." ~ Robert Frost
Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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Reply #33 on:
September 23, 2009, 01:47:38 PM »
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Tom Riordan
Thanks, James. It's still there.
Cheryl, your comment make me think of how the old Greek writers were always placing their gods in various situations in their poems etc. to play their role as characters - no writer considered the final word, more scriptural than the others. So when you look up the myths, there are all different versions.--Tom
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 23, 2009, 07:33:21 PM »
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ca.leverette
Yeah, I think we have this innate drive to explain things, or understand them, not always realizing there's much more to the picture than our minds. And then, of all things, we take our made up explanations and hurt people with them. Downright ignorant, if you ask me.
Something that's always impressed me about the Bible is that there's scientific proof it's written over a huge span of time by many different writers, yet the big picture is always the same, no matter what time or what writer.
cheryl
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"A poem begins as a lump in the throat, a sense of wrong, a homesickness, a lovesickness." ~ Robert Frost
Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 08:17:51 AM »
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Tom Riordan
Wonder if its stylistic diversity helped inspire Moby Dick. Some of those technical chapters are like sections of Leviticus, Exodus, Numbers. Chapter 1 "Loomings" a creation story of sorts...?
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 05:09:42 PM »
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silent lotus
had i only known that it was going to create such a to do
instead of lightly suggesting to take the name Christ out of the title
i would have instead put forth changing the title to: Christ's Divan
which brings me to wonder if there is a BC and an AD
what is the term/abbreviation for the time period that he lived ?
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 05:24:56 PM »
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Lavonne Westbrooks
just for the sake of trivia
AD - or anno domini is Latin I think for 'In the Year of Our Lord' So using that system everything before his birth is BC and everything after is one o' his years.
Of course we do use bce and ce now - so that problem is mute!
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 05:44:41 PM »
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Tom Riordan
Christ's Divan is a great title, Silent, I agree! Too funny for this poem, but if you don't use it...sue me when I do.
Thank you, Lavonne. Seems weird that one is Latin and one is Anglo-Saxon (is it really just "Before Christ"?). I wonder how the Italians do it. (Cheryl, no dirty joke here, please.) Tom
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 06:15:45 PM »
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silent lotus
Quote from: Tom Riordan on September 24, 2009, 05:44:41 PM
Christ's Divan is a great title, Silent, I agree! Too funny for this poem, but if you don't use it...sue me when I do.
Tom
dear Tom
when i was a teenager i used to know one of Sal Profacci's drivers
but not even then did i ask to have anyones legs broken
Christ's Divan
is all yours !
NJTPK smiles
silent lotus
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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Reply #40 on:
September 24, 2009, 06:25:23 PM »
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Lavonne Westbrooks
Strange, I know, but true.
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 06:48:15 PM »
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Tom Riordan
Silent, Turkish!
Main Entry: di·
van
Etymology: Turkish, from Persian dīvān account book
Date: 1586
1 a : the privy council of the Ottoman Empire b : council
2 : a council chamber
3 : a large couch usually without back or arms often designed for use as a bed
4 : a collection of poems in Persian or Arabic usually by one author
Pete Popoff hands-on healer
seated next to Ed McMahon
does not enjoy that famous couch
but only Christ's divan.
Ian Paisley righteous pastor
who enjoys his black and tan
will take a stool in any pub
but only Christ's divan.
Bill Simmons pious Wizard
of the modern Ku Klux Klan
set wooden cross upon his back
but only Christ's divan.
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 24, 2009, 09:16:25 PM »
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Rick Stansberger
I really like this one, Tom. Up it goes.
Rick
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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Reply #43 on:
September 24, 2009, 09:24:17 PM »
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Tom Riordan
Bless you, Rick! It's truly been fun chatting with everyone about Christ, but I also did have hopes for the poem itself. Tom
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Re: Christ's Favorite Chair
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September 25, 2009, 08:50:01 PM »
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ca.leverette
Quote from: Tom Riordan on September 24, 2009, 09:24:17 PM
Bless you, Rick! It's truly been fun chatting with everyone about Christ, but I also did have hopes for the poem itself. Tom
lol
two thumbs up, Tom.
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"A poem begins as a lump in the throat, a sense of wrong, a homesickness, a lovesickness." ~ Robert Frost
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