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  This bull's-eye bad review
« on: January 21, 2010, 08:51:46 AM » by Tom Riordan
hurts worse than things my daughter says,
almost as bad as things Franklin has said.

damn you, why take the trouble
to understand me so well
if you're just going to savage me?

what I miss most from childhood
is bullies calling me stuff I'm not.



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  Re: Bad Review
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 09:01:09 AM » by Casey Quinn
hey tom, a few suggestions -

in s1 i would drop the "this" as which specific review is not really defined, also how about words instead of things in l2 of s1 works well with worse and hurts as a flow.

in s2 the last 2 lines felt like a bump in the read for me i think it is so well first  - perhaps drop the "so well" or "first" but together it reads a little awkward in my read

loved s3! perfect ending for this
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  Re: Bad Review
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 09:08:40 AM » by Tom Riordan
Casey, thank you for the careful read, and the ideas. I added a comma between "well" and "first" and hope that makes it read more smoothly. Let me see if I can put the "This" in the title or not...
With "things" v. "words," the state of mind I have in mind is a bit numbed, a bit primitive, and I hear "words" as too deliberate here. But something else may percolate through from your remark.
Your comment on S3, of course, I accept uncritically! Thanks, Tom
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  Re: Bad Review
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 09:27:54 AM » by cherylleverette
The first verse is funny, with 'Franklin' sounding like a person which connects the reader to the last verse in a childhood comical way.  At first read I wasn't sure what to think.  At second read the image of a child pouting with his arms crossed is vivid.

I like this alot.

cheryl
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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: Bad Review
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2010, 04:29:08 PM » by Tom Riordan
This hurts worse
than things my
daughter says,
almost as bad
as things Franklin
has said.

Damn you
if you're going
to savage me
why take the trouble
to get to know me
so well, first?

This is the thing
I miss most
about childhood,
when mean kids
called you stuff
that you weren't.
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  Re: Bull's-eye
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2010, 08:40:33 PM » by cherylleverette
This sounds more adult and more serious now, Tom.  Your intention seems different.  I hope that's what you're looking for.

cheryl
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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: Bull's-eye Review
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 10:27:09 PM » by Tom Riordan
Thank you, Cheryl. I think, I hope, I get the title straightened away. My intention hasn't much changed over the drafts but I hope is getting more in line with what's written! Tom
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  Re: Bull's-Eye Review
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 12:21:02 PM » by Peter.R
tis a superb ending

I like this
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  Re: Bull's-Eye Review
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 03:20:44 PM » by Tom Riordan
Good to hear, Peter. Thank you. Tom
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  Re: This bull's-eye bad review
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2010, 11:10:32 PM » by Rick Stansberger
I'm wondering about Franklin.  I think he needs a bit more.
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  Re: This bull's-eye bad review
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2010, 11:47:21 PM » by Tom Riordan
rick, thanks. i think you're right. don't know if i can provide enough in surrounding poems in series or need to expand each of them to stand alone better...will be thinking about that. tom
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  Re: This bull's-eye bad review
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 09:37:21 AM » by cherylleverette
This feels almost personal (I know that's a shock) because I do try to understand poets and poetry and I wonder if then I savage them.  That would be just plain pea-pickin' bad.

cheryl
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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: This bull's-eye bad review
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 09:48:08 AM » by Tom Riordan
never seen you savage anyone, cheryl. but book reviewers do sometimes, usurping the prerogatives of our life partners.
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  Re: This bull's-eye bad review
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 01:16:14 AM » by Tom Riordan
...moving to Submit...
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  Re: This bull's-eye bad review
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2010, 07:56:42 AM » by Franklin Delano Harden
Trying to decide if you're talking to yourself throughout, like you're mentally dealing with a situation, but failing. Sorry for the bad things I said. (Grin)
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