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  An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« on: January 25, 2010, 05:57:42 PM » by Tom Riordan
You thought he
was a genius,
I called him a dolt;
I deemed
her an exemplar,
not the cautionary
figure you lambasted.

You brought me
the pleasures
of disagreement
with a dear friend,
of those hot tempests
that might as well
be zephyrs.



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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 11:58:19 PM » by cherylleverette
Don't know who or what you're talking to or about in the first stanza but I like 'dolt' and other descriptions you're using.  Really like the S2 alot with the use of tempests and zephyrs.  Even 'hot' tempests sounds good, even though one might think you wouldn't need it.

cheryl
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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 02:20:17 AM » by Tom Riordan
thanks, cheryl, good to see what you're seeing..tom
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 02:30:46 AM » by cherylleverette
My God, it's 1:20 am.  Didn't know you had an eye open this early in the morning!
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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 03:38:17 PM » by Kevin Jackson
Tom, love this, so vivid.  Then I hit "fast friend" and bump.  Not sure why.  Perhaps fast simply jars with the ebb and flow that makes this relationship... or sounds dismissive.  Can't quite get my finger on it...

k
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 04:37:57 PM » by Tom Riordan
I do see what you mean, Kevin. I really wanted "close" there but it's too close to "those" -- "good" just isn't the right adjective for this -- changed it to "dear". Thanks, Tom
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 10:21:58 AM » by Tom Riordan
..moving to Submit from Workshop...
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 02:00:30 PM » by Franklin Delano Harden
I like the mood of this a lot, BUT, the last two lines of the first stanza seem to be disjointed. Oh, hell, I can't really say what I mean. Damn neophyte, me.
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 03:38:29 PM » by Tom Riordan
FDH, we're not writing for highly trained experts! I'll take a look at those lines and see if there's something I can see that's making them read bad. Thanks, Tom
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 08:36:50 PM » by Tom Riordan
...moving from Workshop to Submit..
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 06:28:38 AM » by cherylleverette
what I think is most interesting about this poem are the changes back and forth in the last 6 lines.  you give us the scene in the first verse.  in the last verse you snap the reader between pleasures and disagreement (which usually aren't), back to dear, then from tempest to zephyr.  excellent use of those words, especially the use of zephyr.

it's unclear what the heart of the relationship is, although one is left to feel it's zephyr-like, not tempest-like. 

poem also reveals your ability to accept others no matter what the issue.

in case you can't tell, I really like this.

cheryl
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A poet dares be just so clear and no clearer.... He unzips the veil from beauty, but does not remove it.  A poet utterly clear is a trifle glaring.  ~E.B. White

  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 07:34:17 AM » by silent lotus
dear Tom

this is a wonderful series !


silent lotus
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  Re: An Afternoon's Shop Talk
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2010, 08:42:19 PM » by Tom Riordan
Cheryl and Silent, sorry for not seeing your posts earlier. Thank you for reading and commenting.
Silent, I'm glad you've followed the series.
Cheryl, glad this poem seems strong to you.
Tom
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