I guess maybe the "big" print magazines might be sticklers on this, and if they Googled a PC poet, would find that the poem which they are considering, has appeared on the Web.  I'd like to know if there is an answer to this. 

Also, if the poet decide to remove the poem from PC, would its title still appear on Google as being on PC?
 

Guess it would depend on publisher/editor. Some embrace the web, others seem to be at war with it. In the long run I suspect the web will win, but meanwhile... ?

milner

I was told by one publisher that appearing in Eds Picks was the equivalent of being published.  Submit is really what they used to call a "slush pile":  submitted material to be picked over for possible publication.  Milner's right -- it really depends on the 'zine. 

About your other question, I think the way google and other search engines work is that they go through the web periodically and remove pages that come up with a 404 mesage (file not found), so that means eventually a poem you've removed from PC should not show up in google.  I don't know how long that eventually would be, however.

Rick

Our site is just as legitimate a place to be published as any other.  Maybe more as members work on their poems to get them moved up to Editors Picks.  We have very little outright rejection. 

I think an author needs to be prepared to accept that they have been published!

Lavonne,

Would being on any board be publishing -- Workshop and Submit as well as Picks?

Rick

Really?   :o  Seriously?

Heck, I think it is up to the editor to whom a poem has been submitted - not us.

Just to be clear about the rights - When a poem hits the web it is considered published - only if it is under a password protected area such as the workshop which requires a user to login is it not considered published.

Lavonne, I inderstand that, but I didn't know writing on PC would be considered published.  it's news to me.  never thought about it PC in a published light,  actually.

tiko

We've seen a long stream of our Editors' Picks being published elsewhere afterwards, as Milner and others can attest, and the IBPC folk for example define "published" as being paid or publication. If somebody else (who?) doesn't want to publish something that's been aired on the web, well, they're picking from a small pot, senselessly. Myself, the only poems I ever do publish elsewhere are ones that people see here at PC and ask to print somewhere else.

just for fun let me add that MANY print rags pay a poet not more than one free copy of the rag.

so what is all the fuss about anyway ?

and why all the commotion about being #1 rather than being ONE.


silent lotus


"Even if I knew the world were to end tomorrow, I would plant an olive tree today."-- Francis of Assisi

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The biggest concern for me is competitions...It's one thing to send to journal telling them it's on Poetry circle, they can they decide whether its published. It's completely another to put it in to a competition and win something only to have another competitor complain to the management of the competition that you've already published on poetry circle...You lose your reputation, have to pay the prize money back...it's all too horrid and I've heard of it happening.  for that reason I don't post my stuff that is currently 'going the rounds' of the competitions without making sure it has been revised substantially from the one here...or I remove it from the site when I enter it.  Recently I've felt safe leaving it in workshop as the poems there will not show up on an internet search and because its called workshop I can legitimately claim that it's ther for feedback only.