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  fallen
« on: August 12, 2010, 08:02:24 AM » by cherylleverette



stark white pavement
three stillborn pecans
wrapped in olive velvet



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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 12:14:22 PM » by Lynn Doiron
Love the poem.  Not certain 'holds' is needed. [?]

Wondered about a more startling title.  My first thought was 'stillborn' --- but mightn't work for this. 
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  Re: fallen too early
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 12:24:42 PM » by Sue Lozynskyj
Love this. 

My mind wandered all round these trifles
waiting for night
to carry one away to my nest
and try my teeth on it.
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  Re: fallen too early
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 12:45:44 PM » by Tiko Lewis
Love this as well.  agree with Lynn on 'hold'.
was thinking something like 'vagrant' or
'stray':

three vagrant pecans
or
three stray pecans

an excellent write, nonetheless.

tiko
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  Re: fallen too early
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2010, 01:49:28 PM » by Lynn Doiron

stark white pavement
three pecans
wrapped in olive velvet

[very haiku-ish]
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  Re: fallen too early
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2010, 03:42:46 PM » by Tom Riordan
Sure, keep it simple. Lovely and strong image, Cheryl. Tom
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  Re: fallen too early
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2010, 05:46:22 PM » by bodkin
Ho about swapping L2 and L3 because:

1) more suspense getting to the meaning
2) perfect haiku syllables 5-7-5

although the syllables can be flexible in haiku and losing "holds" appeals to me also

HTH

Ian
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 11:43:01 PM » by cherylleverette
Love the poem.  Not certain 'holds' is needed. [?]

Wondered about a more startling title.  My first thought was 'stillborn' --- but mightn't work for this. 

'stillborn' is good, Lynn.  I'm using it.  Do you think fallen is too much too?

Thanks,
cheryl

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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 11:44:09 PM » by cherylleverette
Love this. 

My mind wandered all round these trifles
waiting for night
to carry one away to my nest
and try my teeth on it.


Love your reply, Sue.  Beautiful.  What do you think of the poem now.  Have I tainted it?

Thanks,
cheryl

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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 11:45:01 PM » by cherylleverette
Love this as well.  agree with Lynn on 'hold'.
was thinking something like 'vagrant' or
'stray':

three vagrant pecans
or
three stray pecans

an excellent write, nonetheless.

tiko

Thanks, Tiko.  What do you think of 'fallen'?

cheryl

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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2010, 11:45:39 PM » by cherylleverette
Sure, keep it simple. Lovely and strong image, Cheryl. Tom

Thanks, Tom.
cheryl

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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 11:46:18 PM » by Tiko Lewis
i think you can actually use stillborn!

tiko
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 11:48:12 PM » by cherylleverette
Ho about swapping L2 and L3 because:

1) more suspense getting to the meaning
2) perfect haiku syllables 5-7-5

although the syllables can be flexible in haiku and losing "holds" appeals to me also

HTH

Ian

Ian, tks for your generous reply.  I'm afraid to change the lines -- may muddle what's olive velvet.  Know what I mean?  

Tks so much,
cheryl

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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2010, 11:49:21 PM » by cherylleverette
i think you can actually use stillborn!

tiko

Eh?  Does that mean you like it as is?

lol

cheryl

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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2010, 12:08:51 AM » by Tiko Lewis
i would like fallen to be replaced with stillborn, but yes.

tiko
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 03:53:00 AM » by bodkin
Ian, tks for your generous reply.  I'm afraid to change the lines -- may muddle what's olive velvet.  Know what I mean? 


I thought I did... but now I think I don't.  What do you mean?

Ian
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 10:22:59 AM » by Lynn Doiron
cheryl -- what if you use 'fallen' as title and 'stillborn' where you've used fallen in L2 [tiko's suggesiton]   
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  Re: stillborn
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2010, 11:04:53 AM » by Tiko Lewis
cheryl -- what if you use 'fallen' as title and 'stillborn' where you've used fallen in L2 [tiko's suggesiton]   

excellent notion!!!
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2010, 11:57:37 AM » by cherylleverette
Ok, changed now.  Has more meaning now.  I was at first concerned about the sound, but stark and stillborn sound fine.

Thanks very much.

Ian, what I meant was that I wanted to make sure I was saying the pecans were covered in olive velvet.  Hope that makes sense.

Thank you,
cheryl

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  Re: fallen
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2010, 12:49:15 PM » by Tiko Lewis
to picks.
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2010, 04:12:26 PM » by bodkin
Ah, the literal meaning -- that is what I thought you meant!  I was suddenly worried I was missing something symbolic / metaphorical, I do that...  I say nice poem with trees and oceans and the poet says "it's about my first wife!"

I don't think that reversing the lines will confuse...  if you were particularly worried, you could put a colon or dash at the end of the new middle line.

Just a thought.

Ian
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2010, 01:01:48 AM » by cherylleverette
to picks.

Tiko, thank you so much.

cheryl

Ian, thank you as well for your suggestions.

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  Re: fallen
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2010, 09:22:17 PM » by Tom Riordan

stark white pavement
three stillborn pecans
wrapped in olive velvet
L2-3's echo of "the newborn wrapped in swaddling clothes" makes this poem so rich to me.
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  Re: fallen
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2010, 07:11:14 PM » by cherylleverette
What a wonderful thought.  Thank you, Tom.

cheryl
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