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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2010, 10:28:15 AM » by Tom Riordan
Stella, the original is quoted in Reply #1. Myself, I think this has some good crackle that neither original (of this combined version) had. Tom



                 
If I read the Bible
as religiously
as I read you
I would be a better person...
or would I?


I really can't let go of you
of the vision, the hallucination
the psychoticism
I'd rather choose the way
of the insane
than to let go
of my pretending
that even one scrimpy inch
of you spoke to me
about me, of me
but I swear to God
I'll never hurt you again





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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2010, 10:48:58 AM » by cherylleverette

ah you've changed it
was very taken with the version I read last evening but was too tired to comment.
too bad you've removed it from the thread. would love to compare



Stella

Well Stella, thanks so much for telling me how you originally felt.  You could have just let it slide and not commented at all.  So I appreciate that very much.  The reasons I made the change are in a previous comment above.  Honestly, I can't see how anyone could like the original better.  To me, days later, it's bland and mushy.  But I'm not everyone.

Thank you for your response.  Will be happy to know what your thoughts are after comparison.

cheryl

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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2010, 10:50:35 AM » by cherylleverette
Stella, the original is quoted in Reply #1. Myself, I think this has some good crackle that neither original (of this combined version) had. Tom

Tom, thank you for posting this reply.  It tells me what I need to know and also confirms my own feelings.

cheryl

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"I have no intention of explaining how the correspondence which I now offer to the public fell into my hands....The sort of script which is used...can be very easily obtained by anyone who has learned the knack...."~C.S.Lewis

  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 09:09:47 PM » by StellaR

thanks, Tom. took me a bit to get back here.
won't be the first time I swim against a current, cheryl. always enjoy your work. still prefer the first draft, not to say that there is anything wrong with the second. just feels like another poem to me.

Stella
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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2010, 07:47:27 AM » by cherylleverette
thanks, Tom. took me a bit to get back here.
won't be the first time I swim against a current, cheryl. always enjoy your work. still prefer the first draft, not to say that there is anything wrong with the second. just feels like another poem to me.

Stella

Stella, thanks much for coming back to this.  Your comments make me want to post two poems.  This one, and the one you like.  But if I did there would be a feeling I've learned I don't like -- a sort of humialiting feeling -- like I've told too much, spilled my guts and lost my dignity.

Hope that makes sense.  I respect your opinion very much.

cheryl

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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2010, 08:17:04 AM » by silent lotus
thanks, Tom. took me a bit to get back here.
won't be the first time I swim against a current, cheryl. always enjoy your work. still prefer the first draft, not to say that there is anything wrong with the second. just feels like another poem to me.

Stella


ahhhh......that swimming against the current folk
such a delightful tribe !

summer smiles
silent lotus
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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2010, 08:27:50 AM » by cherylleverette

ahhhh......that swimming against the current folk
such a delightful tribe !

summer smiles
silent lotus


Yes, Stella is delightful isn't she?

cheryl

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"I have no intention of explaining how the correspondence which I now offer to the public fell into my hands....The sort of script which is used...can be very easily obtained by anyone who has learned the knack...."~C.S.Lewis

  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2010, 09:55:53 PM » by Rick Stansberger
Last 2 lines come out of the blue.  Do they explain why the N is reasing the subject person so closely?
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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2010, 10:53:21 PM » by cherylleverette
Last 2 lines come out of the blue.  Do they explain why the N is reasing the subject person so closely?

Rick, the hurt comes from the first few lines of the second stanza.  Sometimes we fool ourselves and it hurts other people.

Thanks for your reply.

cheryl

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"I have no intention of explaining how the correspondence which I now offer to the public fell into my hands....The sort of script which is used...can be very easily obtained by anyone who has learned the knack...."~C.S.Lewis

  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2010, 05:40:19 AM » by Doris Chance
You seem to know a lot about these kind of people, Cheryl. How do you get rid of them again?
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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2010, 01:28:32 AM » by cherylleverette
You seem to know a lot about these kind of people, Cheryl. How do you get rid of them again?

Which ones?  The ones who are psychotic, or the ones loved by the psychos?

lol

cheryl

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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2010, 08:14:55 AM » by Doris Chance
Couldn't care about the shared virtual psychosis. Just want to be able to write virtual poetry without my friends and I being spied on in our real life communications.
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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2010, 08:58:48 AM » by cherylleverette
Couldn't care about the shared virtual psychosis. Just want to be able to write virtual poetry without my friends and I being spied on in our real life communications.

Doris, your desire is a good one, but personally I don't think it's possible.  Anytime you write for the world to see, you open yourself to the Universe.  Anything might/will/can happen.  I would say ignore them, but sometimes that makes things worse.  Just be nice and speak with integrity.  ;)

My two cents (and I've been on both sides).  Right now I have this imaginary relationship with a poet well-known to me that it's imaginary, though, that does make a difference, maybe that IS the difference).  He's as innocent as can be.  Not his fault.  He's just nice to me, and I'm just fine.

Good subject.  Maybe you could be more specific.  I promise I won't nose in your business.  lol   Send me a private message, if you wish.  Sounds like it's really bothering you.

cheryl

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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2010, 09:13:04 AM » by cherylleverette
A comment from Tom, elsewhere--I like it very much:

 by Tom Riordan
I read this with three levels, Chery, one being romance, one being Christianity, and one asking the question: Isn't this just we human beings do constantly, tell ourselves stories constructed out of pieces of desire/perception? Tom
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  Re: If I read the Bible
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2010, 09:21:09 AM » by Doris Chance
But that's precisely my point; what I write and publish is up to me, that is a free for all buffet to get out of what you can. My private life is real and it is mine.

Thanks, C.
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